Classic Shell: Forum

Classic Shell is fabulous—it makes Windows 8 usable. Thanks very much for it!

I've noticed just one thing that may be a bug, or at least an oversight. It happens when you've set Controls > "Hover opens: Classic Start Menu".

When you move the mouse pointer to the lower left corner, the Start Menu appears (as it should). But sometimes we move the mouse there to right-click, to see the text menu ("Programs and Features", etc.). When that happens, at least the Start Menu appears below the text menu so the text menu can be seen... But it stays open, even after you've moved away from it. Instead, how about having it close again as soon as we right-click? At that point, it should be obvious that we're accessing the text menu, not the Start Menu.

Actually, my preference for "hover" behaviour would be for the Start Menu to stay open only while I'm actually over it or the Start button. Would anyone else prefer that too? Maybe that could be a further option?

Thanks again for this terrific app. Cheers, A.

Which version of Classic Shell are you using? Which version of Windows?

Ah ok he means that if Right click opens Win+X menu is checked, then the Start Menu appears below the Win+X menu when you right click (and if the Start Menu is set to open by hover).

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Hi guys,

Thanks for your replies. Sorry for the delay; for some reason, I didn't get email notification. I just though I'd check here.


I'm using Classic Shell 4.1.0 (4.0.8 during my first post) and Windows 8.1 64-bit.


Yes, as I mentioned: I have Controls > "Hover opens:" set to "Classic Start Menu".

I'll be more specific:

When I move the mouse pointer over the Start Button, CS appears, and if I don't right-click in the corner for the Win+X menu, CS closes when I move the pointer away. That's normal.

But when I do right-click the corner to show the Win+X menu, CS stays open, even after I move the pointer away—even when I move the focus to another form. This seemed like unintended behaviour.

Apparently the Win+X menu is interfering with CS's tracking of the hover action. Is each of your menu items a separate control? And do you have only those individual controls set to react to Hover events? That would cause CS to stay open even when the pointer had moved away, because the controls aren't aware of each other. If that's true, you could probably fix the problem by making your menu form hover-aware, with mouse tracking "preview" (precedence) over the item controls.

If that didn't work, you could probably do it "manually" by having the form check the pointer's position on a timer, then determining if the pointer is within the menu's dimensions... Yes, it's a bit of a hassle, but we've all had to do those kinds of things, haven't we? ;?)

BTW, it doesn't seem to matter if CS's Controls > "Right click opens Win+X menu" setting is selected or not; right-clicking the lower left corner always opens the Win+X menu. Did you mean to deactivate Win+X when that wasn't selected?