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 Post subject: Start Menu: Tenified
PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 5:07 am 
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This is a real fast rework of the official Metro Skin to get a bit closer to Windows 10's look.
It should be fairly complete, I think, and be quite a close match to the official look. If I forgot to theme something just say so and I'll try to change the forgotten color setting ;).



Now also on DeviantArt!



There are some other settings you need to change if you want to get as close to the Win 10 look as possible:

Menu Look
  • Enable menu glass: On
  • Override glass color: On
  • Menu glass color: 0A0A0A, although 000000 works nicely as well
  • Glass opacity: 40

Enjoy!





ToDo:
  • Find and squash any bugs ;)





All credit goes to to the original author of Classic Shell and the Metro Skin, Ivo.





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File comment: v1.03 (fixed)
much nicer scroll bars, better shutdown button, some additional tweaks

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File comment: v1.02
better submenus and nicer main_arrow

Tenified.skin7 [136 KiB]
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File comment: v1.01
improved about info

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 Post subject: Re: Start Menu: Tenified
PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2015 8:28 am 
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You might like the icons here too: https://github.com/davestewart/classic-shell-win10/


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 Post subject: Re: Start Menu: Tenified
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:03 pm 
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Ooooh, thanks for this! :)

I've added something close to the Win10 and @davestewart's arrows in the skin. Also will have to see about changing the icons...


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 Post subject: Re: Start Menu: Tenified
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:01 am 
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The right side icons don't seem to have the option to show for this skin. Is there some sort of tweak that needs to be done to get them to show?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:51 am 
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Open the skin in reshacker and find this:
Main_no_icons2=1
Then change it to Main_no_icons2=0
and recompile


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:53 am 
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The right side column shows all icons at once only in the Classic with two columns style. For Windows 7 style, you get 1 icon in place of the user pic of the currently selected item.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:10 am 
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oh, ok. ty.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 1:49 pm 
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New version (v1.03) is out:
  • scroll bars are now fairly close to Win10's, and much better all around
  • shutdown button looks a lot better
  • some arrow tweaks

Fun fact:
Scrollbar transparency is calculated from whatever is behind the start menu, as opposed to all other transparencies, which are relative to the (already transparent) start menu background. Which means a scroll bar transparency of 0 will just show the your wallpaper or whatever, while a button with transparency 0 will look the same as the start menu background (see e.g. the shutdown button below).


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 3:23 pm 
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For the new version 1.03, something wonky. Only get white default menu (skinless). :|
Maybe needs a bitmap mask for main two sep?


EDIT: Fixed


Other.
Yep, the scrollbar transparency got me confused for awhile, on skins I modded.
Even worse headache is if glass blur option is turned off. Transparency/glass color goes different.
There is probably exact math to it. I had to wing it on mine. :)

EDIT:
Only Ivo knows the equation.
If one has a lot of time on their hands,
a graph could be made with lots of different numerical value samples,
for glass color on, and glass blur off.


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 Post subject: Re: Start Menu: Tenified
PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:44 am 
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Hm, something went wrong with the final refactor I did yesterday and I didn't test it properly :/ Anywys, thanks for notifying me, should be fixed now (kinda -- the code is super messy now :D).

I'd actually be very interested in the exact math. Also, I'd kinda like to have an option for handling other transparencies the same as the scroll bar transparency...


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:51 am 
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All Program sub-menu can also be transparent?
Like this


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:33 am 
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Why, oh why did you stop supporting the opaque feature?
Because the text rendering looks much better with it enabled, without it, text looks blurry.


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sinkingsage wrote:
Why, oh why did you stop supporting the opaque feature?
Because the text rendering looks much better with it enabled, without it, text looks blurry.


If I had to guess, I'd guess it's just a matter of having too many features to feasibly manage and maintain .___.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:30 pm 
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Is there a way to get the submenus with translucent glass effect?
as asked by newgene01

Thank you in advance


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:21 am 
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Hi, I love this skin but how do I match the taskbar colour/transparency with the same colour as the start menu?



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Casterina wrote:
Hi, I love this skin but how do I match the taskbar colour/transparency with the same colour as the start menu?

Try messing with the "Override Glass Color" option.

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Splitwirez wrote:
Casterina wrote:
Hi, I love this skin but how do I match the taskbar colour/transparency with the same colour as the start menu?

Try messing with the "Override Glass Color" option.

Thanks, I have changed the settings in the taskbar tab and it looks good now but the start menu right column is a bit small and I want it to be a bit bigger by using some of the space on the left column, how do I do this?


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Casterina wrote:
Splitwirez wrote:
Casterina wrote:
Hi, I love this skin but how do I match the taskbar colour/transparency with the same colour as the start menu?

Try messing with the "Override Glass Color" option.

Thanks, I have changed the settings in the taskbar tab and it looks good now but the start menu right column is a bit small and I want it to be a bit bigger by using some of the space on the left column, how do I do this?


You can make the right column wider by...uh...going to the "Customize Start menu" and adding an & sign followed by a bunch of spaces and another & sign at the end of one of the items in the list. It's more of a hack than a fix, but it works. It won't make the left column narrower, though...I don't even remember how to do that.

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Is there any way to thin out the left column? I don't have any long-named programs or folders in my start menu, so there's a lot of unused space.


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Also, make sure Large font option is turned off.


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randm, how can i change search to white text, transperent background and white board? Or gray :)


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Can you make this skin available as a .skin (regular Windows XP/2000 skin)?

It looks great as a Windows 7 (two tiles) skin, but I prefer the single tile skin and Classic Shell doesn't seem to override the skin color on Windows 10 when set to Classic style (black menu background).


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:19 pm 
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Hi GigaWatt.

There are a fair number of Classic style skins in the forum,
that others have made that are similar to Tenified.

If you still like Tenified the best, and randm does not respond,
you could try modifiying his .skin7 to .skin with some crude text overriding,
just to have basic Classic 1/2 style.

Use Resource Hacker to open his .skin7

Copy all the text in the attached file that I uploaded,
and paste at very bottom of his skin file. Click the "compile" button,
and save as Tenified-Classic.skin
Without that "7".
Copy Tenified-Classic.skin and paste in the skins folder.
You might need to close or exit Classic Shell to get it to show up in the classic 1/2 lists.

Like I said, it is crude way. There is no real caption band, and no user name. Would take a lot more additional text and modifying actual skin elements to get it all looking the best. You can take it from there. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Start Menu: Tenified
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:10 am 
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Yeah, I already tried modding it with Resource Hacker... Classic Shell doesn't seem to recognize the .skin file as a regular Classic/Two Column skin file... and yeah, I tried exiting and running Classic Shell again, it didn't make a difference. I used the Metro skin as a guideline (since it's available as a regular Single/Two Column skin), but I guess I should have read the guidelines for editing .skin files a little better... I'm fairly new at this :).

Thanks for the help ;). I will try and mod the file and post results ;).

EDIT:

Yep, your mod basically did the trick ;). Again, thanks for the help ;). I'll try and mod the icons and some other things as well.

BTW, it was a mistake on my part that the edited skin file I used (the one that I previously modded) wasn't recognized by Classic Shell. The reason was... it wasn't there :D. I forgot to run Resource Hacker as an Administrator in order to save the file in Program Files. The funny thing was, it didn't give an error when trying to save it to the Classic Shell installation folder :? and I never checked to see if the file was there so... :D. Hey, these things happen :).

An one other thing. I didn't know this, but Classic Shell doesn't seem to like underscores in the file names of the skins. On the other hand, It doesn't seem to mind to have spaces in them :?. Anyway, I'll either stick to spaces or dashes in the file names and save the files to the desktop first and copy them to the Skins folder afterwards ;).


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:52 am 
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Glad you are getting the hang of it. :)

There have been a few ticked off skinners who got errors in their file.
Yeah, I learned early on, to avoid the system protection,
by always have modd/reworking folder on my desktop, as well as renaming,
before I copy over to CSM skins folder.
Hmm, I never used underscore. I'll stay away from using that. Thanks. :)


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