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 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Setting column width of main menu has no effect

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:31 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 18611


Neither. The setting only controls the max limit for the width.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Missing programs

 Post subject: Re: Missing programs
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:47 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 22184


Ignore the VM thing.
What version of Windows are you using? Was it an upgrade on top of an existing installation or a fresh install?
It would be helpful if you post a screenshot of your Programs menu.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Some program icons is showed as white squares.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:28 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 64529


Different programs use different methods of retrieving the icon. Some of the methods are more reliable, and some provide higher quality images. Classic Shell favors the higher quality because it supports larger size for the icons (like 48x48 or 64x64).

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Mail Win8

 Post subject: Re: Mail Win8
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:53 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 24725


Copy this text (select with the mouse, press Ctrl+C): %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe Press Win+E to open a new Explorer window Press Alt+D to go to the address bar. If that doesn't work, click on the address bar Press Ctrl+V t...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:33 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


ClassicStartMenu.exe is not the problem. Its only purpose is to watch when Explorer restarts and re-enable the start menu.
You need to enable explorer.exe.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:09 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


Looks like you have custom "on-access scanning". See if setting it to Default or Permissive helps. If not, try uninstalling it completely, at least to test if it will help your problem.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Mail Win8

 Post subject: Re: Mail Win8
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:42 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 24725


You can't move it back to the start menu. You have to move it in Explorer to this folder: %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Recent programs are not displayed in classic shell menu

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:16 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 36607


Only programs started from the start menu are tracked and displayed. Programs started from the taskbar, the desktop, or the Metro screen are not tracked.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cannot skip Metro screen

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:15 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 75312


Well, if you have a way of comparing the registry between the two images maybe you can find the difference in the service registration.
Also, you may try upgrading from 3.6.2 to 3.6.5 by just replacing the files and not reinstalling. This will keep the service registration from the image that works.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Mail Win8

 Post subject: Re: Mail Win8
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:12 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 24725


The shortcut is a file. The desktop is a folder. So you have to move the file from one folder to another. Do you know how to do that?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Mail Win8

 Post subject: Re: Mail Win8
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:50 am 

Replies: 9
Views: 24725


Metro shortcuts don't work by themselves. Only the start screen and the start menu know how to use them.
You need to move the shortcut back to %LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows\Application Shortcuts\microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cannot skip Metro screen

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:48 am 

Replies: 22
Views: 75312


OK, now that we know the scheduler doesn't make things faster we can try other things, like changing the service group. Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\ClassicShellService and change the Group property from UIGroup to AudioGroup. Do a full restart and see if it makes any d...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cannot skip Metro screen

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:47 am 

Replies: 22
Views: 75312


When the service starts it launches one copy of the start menu for every logged in user, and then starts listening for more login events. As soon as somebody logs in, a new copy of the start menu will be launched. The start menu (ClassicStartMenu.exe) tries to simulate pressing the Win+D key every h...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Something Went Oops - Windows 8

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:33 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 33240


See if creating a scheduler task to run ClassicStartMenu.exe on login fixes this. Here's how you create a scheduler task: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/67 ... p-log.html

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Missing programs

 Post subject: Re: Missing programs
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:30 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 22184


What program are you trying to find?
The start menu shows the contents of the Start Menu folders. By convention that's where installers put shortcuts to the installer programs. Programs that you copy to your machine but don't require installation will not show up.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:26 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


I examined the crash dump. I don't see anything abnormal related to Classic Shell. But I see quite a few references to avcuf64.dll. This file belongs to Bitdefender. See if uninstalling it temporarily will improve things. Also see if disabling the jumplists has any effect. According to the stardock ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Win 8 Pro- will classic shell work on it?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:15 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 8561


Yes, it will.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Question about the search in the start menu

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:19 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 30063


Go to the Search Box tab in the settings. Set "Show search box" to "Access normally" and check "Selected by default".

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Is there anyway to export settings?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:16 am 

Replies: 14
Views: 43757


There are two ways:
From the settings use the Backup button to export or import XML file.
Save the contents of the HKCU\Software\IvoSoft registry key.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Something Went Oops - Windows 8

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:23 am 

Replies: 9
Views: 33240


I am not convinced it is a delay in the service. Is there a start button if you click on the Desktop tile quickly after login?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Something Went Oops - Windows 8

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:37 pm 

Replies: 9
Views: 33240


If I have time this weekend I will update my Windows 8 and see.
Do you use 32-bit or 64-bit? Do you automatically log in or do you type a password?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Sent to

 Post subject: Re: Sent to
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:12 am 

Replies: 7
Views: 24627


Classic Shell should not affect the Explorer menu in any way, at least in theory.
I may try installing the French version of Windows 8 to test for myself. Are you using 32-bit or 64-bit?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Touch Pad quit working

 Post subject: Re: Touch Pad quit working
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:04 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 13491


Classic Shell should not affect any device. Right-click on the start button and choose exit. See if that fixes the touch pad.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Shell stopped working

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:42 am 

Replies: 18
Views: 44801


The only software I see that may be related to the problem is the 7 Taskbar Tweaker. Few people have reported incompatibility in the past. I've been using it myself for years without problems though. Just as a test, disable it (uncheck "Run at startup" in the 7TT settings) and log off. See...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Shell stopped working

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:22 pm 

Replies: 18
Views: 44801


Type "Classic Start Menu Settings" in the Windows 7 start menu and run it. Does it show any settings?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: How to enable multiple columns for pinned program folders?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:26 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 15161


The recent programs and the top-level "pinned" programs are always at the top. That's because they are variable-size content. You can technically disable the recent programs or move them in a sub-menu, and remove the pinned programs, which will leave only the pre-defined menu items. You ca...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Slow opening of classic start menu due to external HDD's

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:14 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 26720


Have you noticed the slowdown to be related to opening these menus? Like the Word jumplist or the Computer folder?

If the slowdown is more than a few seconds, you can use the following instructions to capture dumps: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:08 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


I am quite busy during the week. It will have to wait for the weekend.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Slow opening of classic start menu due to external HDD's

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:07 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 26720


Does the start menu link to any files on the external drives?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Increasing Start Menu Items

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:05 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 15377


Only programs launched from the start menu are remembered. Did you start more than one?

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Toolbar Email button

 Post subject: Re: Toolbar Email button
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:28 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 18874


The toolbar button does the same as right-click -> send to -> email. If the software you installed doesn't replace that functionality, then it won't work with the toolbar.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Improve the quality of checkboxes at 125/150% screen sizes.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:29 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 17364


Where do you see those checkboxes? A screenshot would be nice.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Separator in Program menu

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:59 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 56615


And then what? Next you'll want to move the separators around like files. But separators are not selectable. You will want to rename them. But separators can't have properties. Since what you are asking is not possible, I'm offering an alternative. The menu editor in the settings is the only one tha...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: How to enable multiple columns for pinned program folders?

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:47 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 15161


If you add them through the Customize Start Menu tab in the settings you will get an option to use multiple columns.
They can't be in the actual Start Menu folder though, or you'll see them twice in the main menu.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Separator in Program menu

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:14 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 56615


If you add your top items in the Customize Start Menu tab in the settings you will get a separator. Look at how the Documents menu works.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Question regarding Search

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:41 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 16043


search_files actually runs the command "search-ms:". It is customizable from the General Behavior tab.
If you want a search that passes the typed text into a third-party search program, look at the Search section in the help.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cannot skip Metro screen

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:38 pm 

Replies: 22
Views: 75312


Well, looks like nobody wants to bother and check if a scheduled task works better than a service.
I can't try it myself because for me the service starts quickly.
Until somebody volunteers to run the tests I'm afraid the service will be the only solution at the moment.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:59 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


Hm, I wasn't quite sure if "its done ticked" means "checked" or "unchecked". Ideally you can use procdump with a process ID, which will work even if there are multiple explorers. However it will require you to use more tools to get that ID. Let's not complicate things f...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:41 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


Uncheck it, log off, log in. From now on you should only have a single explorer process.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:34 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


Dang it. Sometimes there are multiple explorers running. If you open the Folder Options in Explorer, then go to the View tab, do you have the option "Launch folder windows in a separate process" checked?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:25 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


Actually, there is something better you can do. Keep a command prompt open at all times. If the start button freezes for a significant length of time, type the command "procdump explorer.exe", which will create a dump immediately and exit. Repeat the command a few times while the button is...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:22 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


If procdump is still running, that means there was no crash, so no files were saved.
Press Ctrl+C in the command window, and that should stop procdump. Then try the following command line "procdump -e 1 explorer.exe". This should create a file if there was just an exception without a crash.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: No IE10 Toolbar (Win8-32 bit)

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:00 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 58229


WE and IE share add-ons. That's why Classic Explorer Bar appears there. You can ignore it.
There is no toolbar for IE. Classic IE9 only affects the title bar and the status bar.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: No IE10 Toolbar (Win8-32 bit)

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:13 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 58229


Classic Explorer Bar is the toolbar for Windows Explorer/File Explorer, not IE. You need to enable the add-on "ClassicIE9BHO Class". IE already has a customizable toolbar without Classic Shell. Classic Shell does not add any toolbars for IE. The addon plugin model of Windows Explorer and I...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Windows Key doesn't work since install; won't bring up Metro

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:12 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 14207


Check the start menu settings. Look for a setting called "Windows key opens". Set it to open the start menu or the start screen.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Separator in Program menu

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:10 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 56615


The Programs menu shows the contents of the Programs folder. A folder can only contain files. How do you expect it to contain separators?

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Toolbar Email button

 Post subject: Re: Toolbar Email button
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:21 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 18874


No, not possible. There is no generic system that can do that because there is no standard protocol for using web mail. Every mail service is unique.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:22 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


Let's ignore those exceptions for now and wait for the crash. If there is a problem capturing the crash we can focus on the exceptions.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Second, flickering cursor-arrow

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:13 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 13614


Right-click on the start button and select Settings.
Select All Settings at the bottom.
Go to the Windows 8 settings tab.
Uncheck "Skip Metro screen".

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Freeze on Windows 8 Pro 64 bit

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:07 pm 

Replies: 54
Views: 205058


OK, that sounds like a crash. Just run "procdump -e explorer.exe" in the background and keep using your computer normally until the crash happens.
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