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 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Slow / "Not Responding" Folders with Classic Explorer

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:30 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 14590


Sizes of folders are not supported, only files - just like in Windows XP. When no files are selected, the status bar shows the total size. For that it needs the size of all files in the current folder. If the disk is slow to respond, it will take some time. However it should not be affected by scrol...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Improving Search and Keyboard Shortcuts

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:40 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 19317


Not true. If the search box is selected automatically, it is not activated by a mouse click, so hovering won't be disabled. In my experience the actual problem is that people click on the search box, then move the mouse a bit, which gets registered as a hover. If the search box is selected already, ...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Improving Search and Keyboard Shortcuts

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:39 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 19317


The solution is to ignore hovering if the search box is activated by a mouse click. This way if you click on search and then move the mouse, no hover.
This is going to be in the next version.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Flickering?

 Post subject: Re: Flickering?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:47 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 108054


Sorry, I don't know what else to try. Of course if you still suspect Classic Shell, you can try uninstalling it temporarily. Your settings will be preserved for the next time you install it.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Single click to expand folders in left pane?

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:33 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 13981


Yes, select "Windows XP Simple" from the Navigation Pane tab.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Menu

 Post subject: Re: Classic Menu
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:10 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 10408


If you just wait and not click anything, does it go to the Desktop? By default Classic Shell will transition to the Desktop automatically after login. Some people have reported that this may take some time depending on what else is happening during startup - other services or processes that start au...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Opaque Task Bar

 Post subject: Re: Opaque Task Bar
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:30 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 19975


I was unable to find a way to do it. There must be one though, since Start8 does it somehow.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Flickering?

 Post subject: Re: Flickering?
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:39 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 108054


I think in Win8 it is called "Sign out". Basically exit the session, which will stop all programs even if they are stuck.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Logoff feature

 Post subject: Re: Logoff feature
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:29 pm 

Replies: 14
Views: 54740


Does shutdown work? Because a shutdown does a logoff first.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Flickering?

 Post subject: Re: Flickering?
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:28 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 108054


To be sure, just log off and see if the flickering will resume if you don't start any programs.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Flickering?

 Post subject: Re: Flickering?
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:00 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 108054


It may be caused by something changing the contents of the Desktop from time to time, or it may be a bug in some program that tries to redraw one of its windows that was already closed (which may result in repainting of the Desktop). Here's one explanation: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archiv...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Flickering?

 Post subject: Re: Flickering?
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:44 pm 

Replies: 15
Views: 108054


Is it the same flicker that happens if you click on the Desktop and press F5? If so, that's the desktop refreshing itself. I don't know what might be causing it, but is most likely not related to Classic Shell.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Sigh, Zone Alarm again

 Post subject: Re: Sigh, Zone Alarm again
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:51 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 10857


See if there is some exclusion list where you can add the Classic Shell exes and the explorer.exe.

Also, it is not clear what is blocked - does it block the DLL injection, or the network check for new version?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Logoff feature

 Post subject: Re: Logoff feature
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:32 pm 

Replies: 14
Views: 54740


Hm, if none of the log off methods work (even Alt+F4 -> Sign out), then there must be something wrong with your OS. Doesn't seem to be related to Classic Shell.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Logoff feature

 Post subject: Re: Logoff feature
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:45 am 

Replies: 14
Views: 54740


Are you saying that none of the logoff methods I listed above work for you?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start button does not work

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:37 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 28381


Ah, there it is - MouseClick is set to "Nothing". Go to the Controls tab in the settings and change "Left Click opens" to "Classic Start Menu".

P.S. I also enabled text attachments (like XML or TXT) in the forums.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start button does not work

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:21 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 28381


Please export your settings to XML file (use the Backup button at the bottom of the settings dialog) and attach it here.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start button OVER fullscreen app

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:19 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 44923


Some people have reported this happens reliably with dosbox. It is on my list to look into it when I have time.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic menu disappered

 Post subject: Re: Classic menu disappered
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:18 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 21723


This message is shown by the installer if it cannot locate msiexec.exe. Is it possible it is not in the path? A damaged path setting can cause all sorts of problems. Maybe it was the cause of the initial problem before uninstalling.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic shell doesn't work anymore

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:12 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 20288


Looks like you are having a problem showing the Classic Explorer toolbar. Here's what you can do to enable it: http://www.classicshell.net/faq/#explorer_toolbar

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Option to Hide Compressed files in Explorer Navigation Pane

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:04 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 12994


Here's how to disable the zip/cab folders: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/13 ... -view.html

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Start Menu Issue in v3.6.5

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:02 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 14024


The main new feature introduced in the last few versions is the jumplists. See if disabling it will speed things up for you. The setting is in the middle of the General Behavior tab.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Experienced a Classic Shell hang

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:17 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 14780


You may have hit some memory limit while browsing a large folder. The start menu is not intended to be a general-purpose file browser and is not optimized for such use. One thing you can do is to try and capture a crash dump. Follow the directions here: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.ph...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Improved mouse handling in Start menu

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:46 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 16170


The fix for the first issue is to ignore the mouse click if it happens within half second of the menu opening by hover.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Shell stopped working

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:17 pm 

Replies: 18
Views: 44879


What do you mean by "all the classic shell programs are there"? A screenshot would be helpful.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Improved mouse handling in Start menu

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:01 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 16170


These are things I am investigating for the next version.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: adding to start menu

 Post subject: Re: adding to start menu
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:37 pm 

Replies: 13
Views: 38641


The goal is to provide easy UI for people who don't want to deal with per-item customization. They want a quick set of checkboxes like they are used to on Windows 7 or 95. Think of it like the skins - with the skin options you can turn on/off individual features but if you want more control you have...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Account icons appear twice in the user selection screen

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:29 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 23634


What selection screen? The one where you log in? Classic Shell doesn't affect that screen in any way.
Can you provide a screenshot?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Copying and Moving Items in Start Menu with Right Mouse Butt

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:59 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 29926


Sure, it is most likely a bug that snuck in few versions ago. I will look at it when I get the time.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Win8Taskbar shows up on second monitor during movie playback

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:58 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 14382


The second taskbar is not a Classic Shell feature, it is a Windows 8 feature. You control it from the taskbar properties (right-click on the taskbar and go to Properties).

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Copying and Moving Items in Start Menu with Right Mouse Butt

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:56 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 29926


The rules are: 1) If you move stuff within the Programs menu, the default operation is MOVE 2) If you move stuff from the Programs menu to the main menu, the default operation is SHORTCUT, which in case you are dragging a shortcut is the same as COPY 3) At any time you can hold down Shift to force M...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: adding to start menu

 Post subject: Re: adding to start menu
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:44 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 38641


Most people do not want to bother with editing the menu items and just want options to turn things on and off. If they have to remove the item from the tree instead of clicking on a checkbox, it will then be much harder to recreate the item if they want it back. That's why the most common menu items...

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: [win8] Disk space information missing from status bar

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:39 am 

Replies: 7
Views: 19779


Where to display the information is one thing. Another is to detect when to update it - like when the selection changes. As of now I have not found a way to do detect changes to the selection.

 Forum: Classic IE   Topic: ClassicIE9_32.exe appears suddenly?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:37 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 37415


Looks like it is getting stuck in the check for new versions. Maybe you installed a firewall or changes some security settings, so now the internet connection is blocked. If you are unable to find a way to unblock the check, you can just disable the whole auto-update module. Open the Classic Shell U...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Bug Report:Context Menu doesn't dissapear.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:17 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 24620


Hm, Doesn't happen for me. So let's make this clear: 1) You click on the start button (it is the default Windows 7 start button, not the one from Classic Shell) 2) You click on Programs - the programs sub-menu appears 3) You right-click on the start button - the menu appears 4) You click on the Desk...

 Forum: Classic IE   Topic: ClassicIE9_32.exe appears suddenly?

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:16 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 37415


OK, please try this: Download the 2 utilities ProcDump and Process Explorer from here: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb795533 Using Process Explorer, get the process ID (PID) for the extra processes. Using the command "procdump <PID>" create a dump for each of the process...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Bug Report:Context Menu doesn't dissapear.

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:10 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 24620


Have you enabled the policy to disable all items on the desktop? I vaguely remember people having a similar problem after doing that. It's because this option makes the desktop basically unclickable.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Stop adding items to top portion of start menu

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:51 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 16877


It is called "Show recent programs" near the bottom of the Special Items tab. It is also in the Basic Settings tab.

 Forum: Classic IE   Topic: ClassicIE9_32.exe appears suddenly?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:17 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 37415


This is the process that tries to hook to the main IE frame and show the title bar. Every new tab starts a new process, however they should be short-lived processes. Something is blocking them. Try logging off and then run IE again. See if these show up again. If they do, we can try few other steps ...

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: Delete Confirmation Prompt Disappeared

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:03 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 17276


Classic Shell should not change anything related to the deletion confirmation.
Maybe you disabled this setting here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows- ... ows-vista/ ?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: How to remove the search box from the bottom?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:41 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 23742


You are looking at the Classic Explorer settings. You need the Classic Start Menu settings (right-click on the start button and select Settings): http://www.classicshell.net/gallery/Sta ... nuSettings

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Copying and Moving Items in Start Menu with Right Mouse Butt

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:36 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 29926


The Shift should work. What exactly are you dragging, and from where to where? I will try to replicate your actions.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Touch Screen

 Post subject: Re: Touch Screen
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:35 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 19618


Yes, Classic Shell can be uninstalled cleanly without leaving any permanent changes to your machine. Also most features can be turned on or off, so if you are having trouble with some of them you can still disable them and keep the rest.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: How to remove the search box from the bottom?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:58 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 23742


The option is called "Show search box". It can be found at the top of the Search Box tab, or near the bottom of the Basic Settings tab.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Touch Screen

 Post subject: Re: Touch Screen
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:47 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 19618


Classic Shell doesn't do anything to disable the touch screen. That said, Classic Shell is not developed with a touch-first experience, so some functionality may be inaccessible. Some people have reported trouble performing right-click.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Copying and Moving Items in Start Menu with Right Mouse Butt

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:29 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 29926


Sounds like a bug. Some changes were made to make the drag/drop more compatible with Windows 8. This may have broken the right-click dragging. Until this is fixed, hold down Shift while dragging to move. The mouse cursor shows what operation will happen. If you see a small [+] in the corner, it will...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Vista-style transparent window frames for Win8

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:37 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 14851


I can make the start menu look however I want, because it is my software. Affecting the look of other programs, that's a different story. You need to hook all programs in the system and that's a huge task with its own set of problems. This suggestion is more suited for software like WindowsBlinds: h...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Programs Question...

 Post subject: Re: Programs Question... Topic is solved
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:40 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 14261


The start menu doesn't actually show the contents of the Program Files folder (or Program Files (x86)) It shows the contents of the Start Menu folders: C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu C:\Users\Skeet1983\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu By convention that's where installers pl...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: adding to start menu

 Post subject: Re: adding to start menu
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:41 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 38641


If you have a user where this works and another where it doesn't, you can export your settings to XML file and then import them into the other user.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Copy UI

 Post subject: Re: Copy UI
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:10 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 57704


0) Did you change the setting in Windows, or in the Classic Explorer settings? If you changed it in Classic Explorer and it is still not English, that's a problem. 1) Open the settings, go to the Customize Start Menu tab, and double-click on ShutdownBoxItem. Then change the command to whatever you w...
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