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 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Clear icon cache?

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:39 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 1438


If the menu shows incorrect icons, there is a new command called Clear cached information in the Backup button menu of the Settings window to clear the icon cache without restarting the menu. Previously, you can to exit the Start menu, then delete %LocalAppData%\ClassicShell\DataCache.db and load th...

 Forum: Announcements   Topic: Classic Shell 4.3.1 is released [Aug 12th 2017]

Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 12:35 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 61099


Here is the detailed change log for Classic Shell 4.3.1: New features in Classic Shell 4.3.1: ● New command in the Backup button of the Settings window to clear the icon cache without restarting the menu ● Alt+Enter keyboard shortcut to open Properties of Start menu items and jumplist items Other mi...

 Forum: Start Buttons   Topic: XP/Vista/8.1 hybrid start button.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:31 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 6125


Looks amazing!!

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: 3 problems, please help

 Post subject: Re: 3 problems, please help
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:16 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 3483


Before I start downloading utilities and running test on this problem, can someone please confirm.denne that if I completely uninstall Classic Shell with a PRO uninstaller, including all registry entries being removed, and then reinstalling the same version I have been using V3.6.8. will it reset a...

 Forum: Start Buttons   Topic: Man of steel start button

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:12 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 4731


Nice. I found two more with a transparent background at Deviantart but their positions were messed up. I fixed the buttons.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Shut Downaaaaliiiiiiigl" instead of "Shut Down"

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:13 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 2975


The character after '&' will be underlined in the menu and used as the keyboard accelerator shortcut.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Shut Downaaaaliiiiiiigl" instead of "Shut Down"

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:59 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 2975


Yeah editing C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\StartMenuL10N.iniStartMenuL10N.ini or uninstalling and reinstalling Classic Shell should fix your issue.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Aug 4 update KB 4021572 for Windows 10

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:12 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 3309


The Utility report won't help. Only a crash dump (if you can capture one) while Explorer is crashing would give some idea of what's crashing it. I know it's difficult to capture a crash dump when it's a crashing loop you can't get out of but try all the methods listed there: http://www.classicshell....

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Question| How to send folders/files to a program by button?

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:09 am 

Replies: 6
Views: 5820


You can use a batch file to delete the .tmp file and include the Rename command in that batch file.

The file order issue is buggy Windows Explorer behavior I think (of the File Pane). You could try selecting it differently using the mouse or using the keyboard.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Taskbar Transparency if the Taskbar is on left or right side

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:06 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 1359


This was reported by another user too on Windows 8.1: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=6808 so we believe you but the problem could not be reproduced as it works perfectly fine on my PC when the taskbar is at either side, so the cause of this issue can't be determined.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Open Outlook file in the search function

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:16 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 1179


Which version of Outlook? Which version of Windows? Outlook supports email, calendar items and appointments/tasks. Or do you mean attachment files in Outlook?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Menu Item Drag, Folder Hover, Open Folder -> "How to Delay?"

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:55 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 1614


In Classic Start Menu Settings, type the following into the Search box at the top of the Settings window: delay

You can adjust the various delays there. Each setting has help in its tooltip/infotip which appears when you hover over it with the mouse.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Toolbar no longer works under Windows 10

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:25 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 2743


http://www.classicshell.net/faq/#explorer_toolbar

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Does not work with a moved %SystemDrive%\Users folder

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 5:43 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 4693


Uleti wrote:
I do not know, what I do know is that the stock Windows 10 menu works fine, so perhaps there is a bug in Classic Shell?



The stock menu gets to use lots of undocumented/exclusive functions and APIs/methods not all of which are exposed to third party app developers.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Does not work with a moved %SystemDrive%\Users folder

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:40 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 4693


Classic Shell uses KNOWNFOLDERIDs, not environment variables. According to MSDN, KNOWNFOLDERIDs supersede both CSIDLs and environment variables and should be used because environment variables have insufficient coverage of Windows special folders. But it is possible that the KNOWNFOLDERIDs do not wo...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Aug 4 update KB 4021572 for Windows 10

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:19 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 3309


This means Explorer.exe is crashing. I know it's hard to recover out of this crashing loop but only a crash dump will allow determining the cause of the crash: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Aug 4 update KB 4021572 for Windows 10

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:04 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 3309


Are you on Classic Shell 4.3.0 or an older version?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Does not work with a moved %SystemDrive%\Users folder

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:02 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 4693


Microsoft's documentation here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/customize/desktop/unattend/microsoft-windows-shell-setup-folderlocations-profilesdirectory states: "We don’t recommend using this setting, except perhaps in a test environment." "Use this setting to move...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Shell Start Menu causes explorer lock up

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:50 pm 

Replies: 68
Views: 80368


I think the smarter thing would be to avoid Windows 10 than to avoid Classic Shell! Just my two cents. Although if you find out what's causing the issue with the Start Menu and Explorer.exe on Windows 10, do let us know.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Windows 10 Anniversary, Creators and Fall Creators Update

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:15 pm 

Replies: 171
Views: 324701


@DAOWAce, Classic Shell does not even load until after login when Explorer.exe has loaded so it should not affect boot or login in any way. If you think your Explorer.exe is becoming unresponsive, crashing or leaking memory, capture a crash dump as per these instructions: http://www.classicshell.net...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Request: StartIsBack skin

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:00 am 

Replies: 17
Views: 21822


That's great that you figured it out, Gaurav. Do you think you could have a couple pictures, to show everyone how easy it is to put in the label area of Customize Start Menu tab. Here are simple step-by-step instructions: 1. Right click the Start button and click Settings. 2. Check "Show all s...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: deploy classic shell start menu for all domain users AD2012

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:43 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 2360


Classic Shell automatically installs for all users on a computer and by default, it starts automatically for all users too when Windows boots. Open Classic Start Menu Settings and go to General Behavior tab. Check "Start automatically for this user" in the user account where it's not loadi...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Cannot Pin Windows 10 Maps to Taskbar after Classic Shell

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:34 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 2519


Your app seems to be damaged based on what you describe which is why you cannot pin it.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Default Start Menu Folders

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:08 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 1390


You can just set the Hidden attribute on these folders from their Properties or using attrib.exe -h. All items with hidden attribute are not shown in the Classic Start Menu. You may have to do this twice: one for these folders in C:\Users\<YOUR USER ACCOUNT>\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start M...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: XP Classic Retro

 Post subject: Re: XP Classic Retro
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 4:32 am 

Replies: 99
Views: 171912


Oh sure take your time. There is no need to hurry. I am thankful that you are future proofing it by updating it. You don't take donations, otherwise I would've sent some money to your PayPal. :mrgreen:

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Request: StartIsBack skin

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:40 pm 

Replies: 17
Views: 21822


Here are the glyphs for easy copy-pasting if anyone wants to use them in the Classic Start Menu: Note: These glyphs will display properly on Windows 7 and up with the Segoe UI Symbol font present. You might want to change the font used in your skin(s) to Segoe UI Symbol. The rest of the non-glyph ch...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Character Map Glyphs

 Post subject: Re: Character Map Glyphs
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:37 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 8543


Here are the glyphs for easy copy-pasting if anyone wants to use them in the Classic Start Menu. Follow the instructions here: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5091#p33545 Note: These glyphs will display properly on Windows 7 and up with the Segoe UI Symbol font present. Yo...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:37 pm 

Replies: 43
Views: 77873


Here are the glyphs for easy copy-pasting if anyone wants to use them in the Classic Start Menu: Follow the instructions here: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5091#p33545 Note: These glyphs will display properly on Windows 7 and up with the Segoe UI Symbol font present. Yo...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu crashes after update to Win 10 Ver 1703

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:35 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 5369


The link are not in my reply but it's my signature that appears below every post I make. If your crashes are gone, it means you already found the right driver and don't need to do anything else. Even without Classic Shell, simply opening Control Panel crashes Explorer.exe if the buggy driver file is...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Search uses contains instead of starts with

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:23 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 3609


There are no plans to make it exactly as Windows search. The Windows 7 menu search has certain deficiencies which Classic Start Menu improved upon: - Because Windows 7's menu can't do partial matches, you can't type RAR to open WinRAR. Or dataexecut to open DEP properties. With Classic Start Menu, y...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Desktop F3 Keyboard Shortcut

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:10 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 3481


No replacing F3 is not a good idea because F3 opens different things on Windows 7, 8.1 and 10 and users prefer different things. For example, on Windows 8.1, the built-in Windows search is the only one that can search network files, Classic Start Menu cannot so both are required. Similarly, on Windo...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu crashes after update to Win 10 Ver 1703

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:05 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 5369


On PCs which have IDT audio, the audio driver (IDTNC64.cpl file to be specific) is known to be incompatible with the latest Windows 10. It can cause Explorer/Classic Shell to crash. Uninstall IDT audio driver or get the updated fixed one. Simply removing IDTNC64.cpl should fix the crash too.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Search uses contains instead of starts with

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:10 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 3609


Space is considered a word separator so finding words beginning with b is normal e.g. Bluetooth or blink rate. Maybe your batch files also contain words beginning with b. If you don't want to search file contents, also uncheck "Search contents" under "Search files". It is not the...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Character Map Glyphs

 Post subject: Re: Character Map Glyphs
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:09 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 8543


Well it's not the same exactly but instead of using icons, if you use Unicode text symbols, you can have some glyphs in Windows 7-style, 2nd column as well. If in the future, Ivo can add support for color fonts which are supported using DirectWrite on Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, we can have full col...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Request: StartIsBack skin

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:51 am 

Replies: 17
Views: 21822


Well it's not the same exactly but instead of using icons, if you use Unicode text symbols, you can have some glyphs in Windows 7-style, 2nd column as well. If in the future, Ivo can add support for color fonts which are supported using DirectWrite on Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, we can have full col...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:51 am 

Replies: 43
Views: 77873


Well it's not the same exactly but instead of using icons, if you use Unicode text symbols, you can have some glyphs in Windows 7-style, 2nd column as well. If in the future, Ivo can add support for color fonts which are supported using DirectWrite on Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, we can have full col...

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Status bar not visible

 Post subject: Re: Status bar not visible
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:36 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 3141


Yeah that's how Microsoft designed it in Internet Explorer 5 in 1999. :lol:

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Customize statusbar details?

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:17 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 3524


Yeah it would've been great to have it working for AllFileSystemObjects. Unfortunately, it doesn't work.

The only time I've seen System.FileCount work is in Windows Explorer stacked search results. Unfortunately, stacking was removed after Windows Vista.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Windows 10 log off text changed to sign out

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:13 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 2531


It is changed by Windows if you are using a Microsoft account. If you revert to a local account, it should revert. Or you can modify StartMenuL10N.ini.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Desktop F3 Keyboard Shortcut

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:05 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 3481


You can use a simple AutoHotkey script to override it.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Search uses contains instead of starts with

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:02 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 3609


Yes open Start Menu Settings -> Search Box tab. Uncheck 'Match parts of words'.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Status bar not visible

 Post subject: Re: Status bar not visible
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:06 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 3141


Some Explorer components are probably disabled on your PC. Enable them as per these instructions: http://classicshell.net/faq/#explorer_toolbar

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Customize statusbar details?

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:02 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 3524


The status bar details are the same as what the tooltip/infotip shows. You can customize the tooltip using the Registry but it's per-file type. As an example, see the "InfoTip" Reg value's data at HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\lnkfile. Article on it: Add More Details to Shortcut ToolTip in Windows 10:...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Windows 10 - windows explorer continuously crashes

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:14 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 6818


Besides IDT, there is ONE MORE driver that I've found which crashes Control Panel. Realtek's audio driver if you haven't updated it, contains RtkAPO.dll which has the same effect as IDT's CPL file.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Crashes Explorer in Win 10 Creator

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:10 am 

Replies: 14
Views: 10009


Besides IDT, there is ONE MORE driver that I've found which crashes Control Panel. Realtek's audio driver if you haven't updated it, contains RtkAPO.dll which has the same effect as IDT's CPL file.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Start Menu not Appearing

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:14 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 2800


Right click Start button -> Settings. Make sure Left click opens and Windows key opens are set to "Classic Start Menu". Also make sure no other Start menu software is installed.

 Forum: Taskbar Skins   Topic: [REQUEST] Windows 7 Taskbar

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:30 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 11345


I assume you are asking this for Windows 10? The problem is even though the taskbar background can be skinned, the window buttons can't be made to look like Windows 7/8.1. So far, I only know of StartIsBack++ which can theme the taskbar to make it look like Windows 7/8.1. Unfortunately, StartIsBack+...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: XP Classic Retro

 Post subject: Re: XP Classic Retro
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:23 am 

Replies: 99
Views: 171912


Right, right. And indeed especially for this skin which has so many bitmaps, I wouldn't want you to update all of them just for making the band slightly thicker. I didn't see the internals of this skin to see how its done so I assumed it might be possible to just stretch the bitmaps vertically witho...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: XP Classic Retro

 Post subject: Re: XP Classic Retro
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:48 am 

Replies: 99
Views: 171912


This skin also needs a slightly bigger user picture option and slightly thicker top bar for high DPI.

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: XP LUNA Variations (Classic 1 and 2)

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:03 am 

Replies: 55
Views: 95970


The position of the user picture in this skin when shown in the left column seems to be dependent on the setting "Programs pane width". It shifts left/right depending on whether the value of this setting is decreased/increased.
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