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 Global announcement   Topic: Classic Shell no longer in development. Source code released

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:34 pm 

Replies: 50
Views: 45101


Well the answer is simple. DON'T upgrade to Windows 10. Stick with Windows 7 and 8 as I am doing. I don't understand why people are using Windows 10 as it is so terrible. Yes you and I and some others on this forum are smart enough to understand that Windows 10 is crap and won't ever "upgrade&...

 Global announcement   Topic: Classic Shell no longer in development. Source code released

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:12 pm 

Replies: 50
Views: 45101


If the nature of Windows changes in the future from a service, back to a product, that doesn't bombard you with tremendously bloated, intrusive, disruptive, rude, worthless updates that leave you with no real control, freedom to tweak or keep the features you like, and if any fork of Classic Shell h...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: classic explorer no longer works under windows 7

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:54 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 305


http://www.classicshell.net/faq/#explorer_toolbar

 Forum: Announcements   Topic: What's the future for Classic Shell?

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:36 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 5373


Ever since Windows 10 made the OS less customizable and a pain to use, Ivo has lost interest in actively developing it due to other important projects and I have lost interest in testing it on Windows 10 so Classic Shell is in maintenance mode. New features and new releases will be very slow or unli...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Changing Metro App Folder Icon in Program List

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:33 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 387


Check out this post: viewtopic.php?t=921

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Recent Documents" empty

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:33 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 387


Right click Taskbar -> Properties. Go to Jumplists tab and enable the option to store recently opened files/documents. Thereafter, they should start showing up as you open them.

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: Classic Master Browser?

 Post subject: Re: Classic Master Browser?
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:04 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 254


Or you could downgrade those PCs to Windows 8.1 and see how much better it is and how well it runs with Classic Shell compared to Windows 10. Another option is an Android phone but not a very good one if it's not always on and always running the app. But I sometimes set the SAMBA server Android app ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: shutdown launches separate windows pop up for shutdown

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:27 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 245


What style of the menu are you using?

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: Windows Easy Transfer

 Post subject: Re: Windows Easy Transfer
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:00 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 300


There is no such feature in Classic Shell. It is only a Start menu and some Explorer add-ons.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Export setting to a registry file

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:11 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 274


Export HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\IvoSoft and HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\IvoSoft reg keys. Make sure the Start menu is not running while merging these keys. Any Classic Explorer changes will also take effect after Explorer.exe is restarted after adding the reg information.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Not compatible with custom themes?

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 10:31 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 218


Classic Shell comes with its own skinning system. Custom visual styles are not supported at all. You can create a Classic Shell Start Menu skin using Resource Hacker similar to the one in the visual style and it will forever work and look the same across all Windows releases. Here is the skin refere...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Recent Documents" empty

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:07 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 387


What Windows version are you using?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: NumLock "on", InitialKeyboardIndicators, hybrid shutdown

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:16 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 234


Windows 8/8.1/10 all have hybrid shutdown on by default. Classic Shell simply follows the default Windows setting. The Reg values have changed across each Windows version: https://winaero.com/blog/enable-numlock-logon-screen-windows-10/ I don't know what they are for the latest Windows 10 release. I...

 Forum: Start Buttons   Topic: Some Start button

 Post subject: Re: Some Start button Topic is solved
Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:00 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 1274


What is your button about? :)

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Notification Center does not open, even not with Win+A

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:15 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 270


Hmm this exact problem was reported by some more users here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7028 No fix has been found yet.

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: FCU?

 Post subject: Re: FCU?
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:10 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 252


Are you facing any specific issues? People report that it is already compatible.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Open new window using CTRL click on parent button

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:48 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 284


On Windows 7, the Up button is added to Explorer by Classic Explorer. On Windows 8/8.1/10, Microsoft added it back themselves but forgot the Ctrl+click function. So simply add the Up button to your Explorer toolbar and use it instead. Click+clicking it should open the parent folder in a new window. ...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: CSV file for directories and subdirectories.

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:43 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 272


While the idea is good, no one is going to modify their app installer for Classic Shell because after all, it is a third-party product, not something made by Microsoft and integrated into the Windows OS.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Windows 10 Anniversary, Creators and Fall Creators Update

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 1:16 am 

Replies: 169
Views: 44122


@kiampp, that is a screenshot of Explorer from Windows 7. To disable the Ribbon on Windows 8/8.1/10, use OldNewExplorer: http://tihiy.net/files/OldNewExplorer.rar

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Windows 10 Fall Creators Update [FCU] Support

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:24 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 1198


@PatrickMcHargue, have you tried using the Classic Shell Utility to remove it completely including your Settings and then clean installing? Because of the way Windows 10 is serviced and updated, it routinely creates crashing issues for Explorer because Microsoft's upgrade process is imperfect even a...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic Start Menu opens and closes after Session Logon

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:29 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 208


If the remote computer has many tasks set to run at logon or startup, I think it's normal if some of them are stealing focus as you just log in to your session. Just wait for a few seconds. If you can identify which apps or tasks are doing this and they are not necessary, you can disable them. SysIn...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Classic shell installation query

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:23 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 197


You can install Classic Shell at any time after Windows 10 is installed. However note that as Windows 10 updates and upgrades itself automatically over time, you may have to do a repair install of Classic Shell or remove it using the Utility (http://www.mediafire.com/download/3ukeryzw41qpfz8/Classic...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: classic shell start menu not working at all

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:13 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 261


Right click the Start button. Do you see a Settings item? Click it and go to the Controls tab (if Show all settings is checked, otherwise it's the Basic Settings tab). On the Controls tab, make sure "Left click opens" and "Windows key opens" are both set to "Classic Start Me...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: "Update and Shutdown" Button Icon (Windows 7 Style)

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:31 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 443


Ah I stand corrected. Since this parameter is not present by default in any skin, I hadn't even noticed it in the Skin reference. Thanks juniper7 for noticing it.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Win 10 desktop continually restarts, until CS 4.3.1 removed

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:10 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 587


The way Windows 10 is serviced and updated, it routinely creates crashing issues for Explorer because Microsoft's upgrade process is imperfect even after years of trying and cannot even properly migrate desktop app settings after the upgrade - it ends up deleting certain configuration in the Registr...

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: [Solved] Favorites in Navigation Pane?

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:57 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 2427


Don't know if this still works: https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-re-add- ... -explorer/ and https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-hide-an ... indows-10/

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: switch_user and lock commands mixed up?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:18 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 267


It is not mixed up.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Pin" the Start button to taskbar?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:19 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 550


I also use 7+ Taskbar Tweaker so it just might be a particular setting in it that causes this. If you can find it, let us know and let the developer of 7+TT also know about it. P.S. I think you may have checked "Hide the Start button" option in 7+TT. That will obviously cause this behavior...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Pin" the Start button to taskbar?

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:49 pm 

Replies: 7
Views: 550


Is there any other program that may be changing the position of elements on your taskbar?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Programs menu expands too quickly, no easy mouse escape

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:47 pm 

Replies: 6
Views: 643


Go to General Behavior tab in Start menu Settings and uncheck the option "All columns are same size". See if that makes the 4 columns of the submenu fit besides the main menu. Or you can hold down the Shift key before/while expanding the Programs item to expand it as a single column scroll...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: 8.1 Store apps shortcuts on Desktop

 Post subject: Re: BUG!
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:16 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 249


That is a Windows 8.1 limitation. The Desktop is not part of Classic Shell and the shortcuts are also created by Windows, not Classic Shell. As a workaround, use this method to create a desktop shortcut to the app: https://winaero.com/blog/exclusive-how-to-start-a-modern-app-from-desktop-without-goi...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Move All Programs

 Post subject: Re: Move All Programs Topic is solved
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:46 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 359


No for Windows 7 style. Already possible for Classic with two columns style. For Windows 7 style, there is also a separate "Delay multiplier for the All Programs button" setting to prevent opening it fast.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Windows 10 1703 and CS 4.3.0 or 4.3.1 freezing

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:08 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 349


Are any of the user accounts standard users (non-admins)?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Windows 10 Creators Update - Second taskbar

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:02 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 400


So why is this a bug report? It does not seem to be related to Classic Shell. :D

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: How to stop specific programs from turning up in search?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:27 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 335


Over time, the menu remembers which items have been launched from the search and presents them first. If you launch Word a couple of times, it should become the top-most. You can't re-order search results but there are a couple of tweaks you can do. Open Classic Start Menu Settings and go to the Sea...

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: [Help] Reformat Harddisk

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:27 am 

Replies: 5
Views: 511


Can't you boot Windows Setup or its Recovery environment/WinPE from a USB HDD?

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Reduced height of right hand menu items

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:43 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 571


@zeeshan, this post might help: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7270

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: [Help] Reformat Harddisk

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:30 pm 

Replies: 5
Views: 511


If you can open Task Manager or any app which allows the Open dialog of Explorer to be loaded, you can use copy-paste.

Or use the command prompt and tools like xcopy, robocopy to save it.

 Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta   Topic: .

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:20 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 294


This is possible using the other Start menu app called StartIsBack++ for Windows 10. It has some nifty taskbar improvements for the Windows 10 taskbar although its Start Menu is not as great as Classic Shell. But its Start Menu supports ms-styles (Windows theme format) and can apply those styles to ...

 Forum: Feature Requests   Topic: Sort alphabetic

 Post subject: Re: Sort alphabetic
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:51 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 315


There are 2 easy ways to sort without using right click with the help of Classic Shell. First method (Sort headers): Open Classic Explorer Settings and check the option "Show sort headers in all views" on the File Pane tab. Close and reopen the Explorer window. Then, you will get property ...

 Forum: Chitchat   Topic: Windows 10 Pro for Workstations, what you need to know

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:10 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 493


While it abuses your bandwidth and wears out your storage with extremely huge bloated uncontrollable updates. :lol: :mrgreen:

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Task Bar hangs after Office 2016 install from Office 365

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:42 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 303


What is your version of Windows? I assume it is Windows 10? You can exit the Start Menu by right clicking the Start button -> Exit. You can load it again by launching C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe. The Classic Shell Start Menu automatically loads when Explorer.exe loads. You ca...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Missing Metro app icons after uninstalling Classic Shell.

Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:21 pm 

Replies: 3
Views: 441


Classic Shell does NOT do any permanent modification to Windows. In fact, its modifications are all in-memory and as soon as it is unloaded, Windows reverts to its default behavior. So whatever broke in your Windows - you can be 101% sure it is not Classic Shell.

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Keep windows in the same position on screen?

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:37 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 326


This was removed in Windows 7 I think. Try ShellFolderFix: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details ... erfix.html

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Folder Preview Image from Windows XP/7

Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:34 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 391


Explorer folder previews cannot be modified. They are completely ruined after XP because they are angled making it harder to decipher them and to make things worse, Windows 10 as you said is distorting their proportion/aspect ratio. But you can use Windows 8.1 for a really long time and pretend that...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: windows 10 not allow download

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:26 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 296


What app are you using to download it? Try another browser and make sure you are downloading from www.classicshell.net.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Windows 10 Creators Version - Classic Shell unload problem

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:25 pm 

Replies: 1
Views: 278


You can use the Classic Shell Utility (http://www.mediafire.com/download/3uker ... tility.exe) to remove your existing version and reinstall the latest.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Cant install new version 4.3.1

Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:19 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 343


Get older installers here: http://classicshell.net/downloads/ Or you can use the Classic Shell Utility on that page to remove your existing version and reinstall the latest.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Support for AutoStart/StartUp-Folder

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:15 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 406


I don't remember any gotchas. Use it and let us know if you find any drawbacks. Already discovered this one: shortcuts placed in Startup folder don't start.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Support for AutoStart/StartUp-Folder

Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:51 am 

Replies: 3
Views: 406


The actual mechanism for starting a program by placing its shortcut in the Startup folder is a feature of Windows. If you are using Classic Shell's Group Policy Settings to redirect the Start Menu folder, try using the Windows policy settings instead. Then shortcuts placed under the redirected Start...
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