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 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:53 am 

Replies: 13
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I agree that loading in the optimum icons for each display is the best option. Performance is secondary to me - an i7 should be able to draw a few extra icons! And then they should be cached. As it happens though, I've found Windows 10's handling of different density DPI displays to be so appalling ...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:31 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 3244


Hi Ivo, Thanks for the reply. Currently, that is what I've done; to find a setting that kinda works for both. I get the large and small icons thing (having made a bunch for my Windows 10 theme if you remember) I guess I just don't understand enough about Windows development, or its DPI scaling issue...

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:59 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 3244


I have to say, in this case I would prefer consistency over performance.

If there was a way this could be offered in a future update, I would be all for it :)

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:24 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 3244


So having looked at this some more, I'm still getting discrepancies.

Setting icon sizes to suit one monitor won't suit the other.

Either the icons are too small on the high-DPI monitor, or freakishly large on the normal-DPI monitor.

Is there no way to solve this?

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:47 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 3244


Hmm... seems like the tooltip is a Windows thing, as it happens even outside of CS.

It's so frustrating! MS really have seemed to have dropped the ball with high DPI displays :(

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:41 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 3244


Hi Gaurav,

That's helped, certainly, thanks.

As you say, the icons on the second display aren't respecting the scale of the monitor, but seem to be taking their lead from the global setting. Can this be fixed?

Also, the tooltip text is also much bigger; screenshot attached.

 Forum: Bug Reports   Topic: Classic Start Menu scales incorrectly on mixed DPI screens

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:52 am 

Replies: 13
Views: 3244


I've recently made the move to a high-DPI laptop with a secondary external screen, but unfortunately, Classic Shell exhibits scaling issues when displayed on the secondary monitor. It seems to somehow be taking the primary (high-DPI) settings and looks hugely enlarged. I haven't tried swapping the m...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:39 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Fantastic :D I've set up a bunch of different Start Menu configurations which I'll be uploading for the next release, hopefully with an expanded icon set, and even more hopefully 16px and 48px icons. It's so much nicer having a Start Menu that behaves like Windows XP, but feels like Windows 10, I'm ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Ugly Green Background After a Day

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:21 pm 

Replies: 4
Views: 1051


This looks like Windows 10 attempting to match your wallpaper.

I have that option turned off (Settings > Personalisation > Colors) and I have the darkest grey chosen instead, which is then reflected in the Start Menu.

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Feature request: checkbox to show hidden items

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:30 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 655


Sure, I know that. I have AppData set as unhidden, but I have so many dot folders installed by various frameworks, it's crazy. So I don't want to see them ALL the time thus they have to be hidden for sanity's sake. As a workaround I can create shortcuts but they're not traversable, so it would be ni...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Fix for failed Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB3093266

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 1:53 am 

Replies: 1
Views: 881


My Windows 10 machine has been failing on the latest Windows update, and I finally tracked down why. Apparently it's as basic as Start Menu items not being where Windows expects them. But there's an easy fix: ⋅ Right click on "Command prompt". Select "Run as Administrator&qu...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Feature request: checkbox to show hidden items

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:08 pm 

Replies: 2
Views: 655


It would be great to be able to optionally "Show hidden folders/files" in an item's "Edit Menu Item" dialog.

As a developer, it would be really useful to be able to traverse all the dot folders in my %USERPROFILE% folder right from the Start Menu.

Cheers,
Dave

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Icon sizes

 Post subject: Re: Icon sizes
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:07 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 3165


Have just discovered that PHP's ImageMagick lib writes .ico files, so I'll probably write some kind of drag-and-drop multi-file, multi-resolution upload script to do all the hard work for me.

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Icon sizes

 Post subject: Re: Icon sizes
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:52 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 3165


They'll for sure all need individual love and care at 16px, and if I'm building a set of 4, I'll need to work out a workflow that won't be too onerous. Current thinking is... Setup: ⋅ Build base PSD (as above) Design (per icon): ⋅ Copy base PSD and rename ⋅ Copy and pas...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Icon sizes

 Post subject: Re: Icon sizes
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:05 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 3165


Luckily some icons lend themselves to reduction better than others!

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Icon sizes

 Post subject: Re: Icon sizes
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:24 am 

Replies: 10
Views: 3165


That would truly be one size for all. Actually, weirdly not! The less pixels you have to play with, the more "iconic" your images have to be. Take the "pictures" folder for example. At small image sizes you need to be really careful with your pixel-pushing. Of course if it was l...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Icon sizes

 Post subject: Re: Icon sizes
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:09 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 3165


Juniper, yep - it is! Though in practice, only the smaller icon sizes require the hard work to make sure they don't look woolly. Anything on and over 32px I suspect can be a resized from a larger version, so I'll probably create vectors than can be re-purposed. I have a new MacBook Pro running Bootc...

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Explorer "tree view" replacement

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:10 pm 

Replies: 0
Views: 1337


Hey all (but mainly Ivo). I'm wondering would it be possible, somehow, to replace the Explorer "tree view" component only? I ask because over the years it's become an absolute bloated mess: ⋅ Too many top-level nodes (User folders, Favourites, OneDrive, HomeGroup, Network, Deskto...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Icon sizes

 Post subject: Icon sizes
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:40 pm 

Replies: 10
Views: 3165


I've been working on a bunch of icons for my Windows 10 theme, and they're looking pin-sharp at 24px (the theme's "large icon" size): https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/132681/10267781/2165bcb6-6a9b-11e5-9200-c84e1e431a34.png However, I've realised I probably need to build a 16px s...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:57 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


OK, I figured it. The default setting were on "Windows 7 style" and I don't have a .skin7 file.

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:44 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Weirdly, I've just tried to install the skin on a 2nd computer, and Classic Shell doesn't see it. I've downloaded it from my Github repo, as well as copying the actual .skin file, and it's the same each time - no skin shows in the list. The skin opens in Resource Hacker on that machine too. Both mac...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:03 am 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


We still need glyph icons for Music, Videos, Downloads, Apps, Games, Monitor off, Default Programs, Recycle Bin, Programs and Features, WiFi, Recent/Frequent folders Edit: I've added these issues to the Github repo: https://github.com/davestewart/classic-shell-win10/issues Yeah. I've just completed...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:28 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


OK, everything is uploaded to Github.

https://github.com/davestewart/classic-shell-win10

If you'd like to check it out and give me any feedback, that would be great.

What's the best way to announce a new skin? Is there a thread for this kind of thing, or do I just make a new one?

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:38 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Thanks :) I'm just finishing off a few things, then I'll stick the whole lot on GitHub. You don't happen to know if there's a variable (for use in Customize Start Menu bitmap paths) to directly reference the Classic Shell folder do you? I have CS installed in "Program Files/Utilities/Classic Sh...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:35 pm 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


I did manage to get the icons into a dll, but apart from feeling more "packaged" there's really no advantage as far as I can see; in fact it comes with a major overhead of having to bugger about to get them in just the right format, insert them using Resource Hacker (which is not the frien...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:30 pm 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


Hey Juniper, Thanks so much for that :) I actually got some great advice to use the Customize Start Menu tab to customize icon bitmaps, which works fine for me. Bitmap paths are also saved to the Backup XML files, which makes it really easy to edit. Check out my custom Windows 10-style icons: http:/...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:45 pm 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


I did my own icons in the end, only took a couple of hours

I think these look much better.

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:39 am 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Here's how the icons look in-situ.

Not as sharp as the core Windows 10 icons, but certainly look more in-keeping with the OS.

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:00 am 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Of course!

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:00 am 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Not that I know of.

Instead, I'm compiling a dll with icons from Icons8: https://icons8.com/web-app/category/win10/Very-Basic

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:25 am 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


Thanks, Gaurav, that's great! Looks like icon customisations are also saved to the settings backup, which is great. My plan is to replace all the stock item icons with Windows 10 equivalents. I can do this myself as you've suggested, but do you know if it's at all possible to change the defaults, so...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Skin with glyph icons in column 2 to match Win10 taskbar?

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:45 am 

Replies: 25
Views: 13571


I note from the docs that it is possible to set some icons, such as All Programs.

Is it possible to set any of the other icons which the user can make available, such as This PC, Documents, Control Panel etc?

Thanks,
Dave

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:37 am 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


3. Don't use PNG, you need to use bitmaps. The SKIN text refers to the numeric ID of the bitmap resource. Got this working now, thanks. On a related note (useful info if someone is searching) to have 32-bit bitmaps actually use an alpha channel, you have to manually create it from a selection. This...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:32 am 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


2. You can edit the skin while it is in use. Then just press the Win key to see it. If the timestamp is changed, the menu will reload it. Ah, that's helpful information. For some reason, my Windows 10 is not updating the modified attribute of the skin file (I can confirm it is being saved) so Class...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Feature request: better settings tab filter

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:29 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 731


Not a bad suggestion actually!

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:08 am 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


Yeah, it's a shame! Still, a one-man project, so I know how hard it is to find the time to fix everything. I couldn't find that version directly online, and I'm cautious about downloading from all these software sites that make you use their garbage-ware bundled installers, would you mind posting a ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Feature request: better settings tab filter

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:59 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 731


The only time it's confusing is when you have *too many* tabs. The idea for skin editing is to filter the tabs that have a cross-over with skin settings, such as: - Skin - Menu Look - Start Menu Style - Windows 10 Settings - General Behavior I only suggest this as I'm attempting to build a new skin ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: Feature request: better settings tab filter

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:17 am 

Replies: 4
Views: 731


Hello, At the moment, the "Show all settings" filter is all or nothing. Whilst trying to tune the behaviour of the start menu recently, I really only needed to use about 3 of the 14 tabs, and it got quite confusing remembering which ones to go back and forth from. How about a more granular...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:33 am 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


OK, thanks, I get that. A bunch of additional questions, if I may: ⋅ Is there any way to make the start menu to stay open when developing? ⋅ How do I reload / update the current skin when it's recompiled? ⋅ Adding a new bitmap (as per the tutorial) adds a new PNG node t...

 Forum: Start Menu Skins   Topic: Settings and custom skin file

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:25 pm 

Replies: 11
Views: 3767


Hi, I'm attempting to build my first skin file, an as-authentic representation of the Windows 10 theme that I can. My plan is to set up the current Metro theme with the correct settings, then use the Skins tutorial to somehow bake those settings into a file, along with any other relevant settings, w...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Show icon frames" needs improvement (Windows 10)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:21 pm 

Replies: 8
Views: 1285


Yes, it seems to be a balance with some of the other settings. I'm hoping to alleviate this by creating a custom skin:

http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5216

Any help is appreciated!

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Show icon frames" needs improvement (Windows 10)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:56 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 1285


Ah yes, turns out it was my Windows Personalisation color (the darkest grey available) in combination with my Menu Look > Glass * settings: ⋅ Enable menu glass: on ⋅ Override glass color : on ⋅ Menu glass color: #000000 ⋅ Glass opacity: 100 This also resulted ...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Show icon frames" needs improvement (Windows 10)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:44 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 1285


These are my settings for each appearance:

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Show icon frames" needs improvement (Windows 10)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:34 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 1285


Hi Ivo, Sorry if I wasn't clear. The effect I was getting was this, with a border around each icon: http://www.classicshell.net/forum/download/file.php?mode=view&id=2700&sid=926087332ec01803d7be5c912afa762f The effect I thought I was going to get was either a solid grey background with margi...

 Forum: Classic Start Menu   Topic: "Show icon frames" needs improvement (Windows 10)

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:56 am 

Replies: 8
Views: 1285


Hello, After running with the new Windows Start menu for the last few months, which although good in many ways, is severely hobbled by the lack of a fully-hierarchical All Programs menu. So I've come back to Classic Shell and have managed to tweak a whole load of stuff to get me something very, very...

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Classic Explorer hasn't worked for me in a long time...

Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:54 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 1644


I thought for a moment that both you, and that text, were referring to Classic IE, but even though I had to go via IE's menus, it enabled it in Windows Explorer.

Thank you very much!

 Forum: Classic Explorer   Topic: Classic Explorer hasn't worked for me in a long time...

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:34 am 

Replies: 2
Views: 1644


Hi there, I love the Classic Shell suite, in particular Classic Start Menu, but my problem today is with Classic Explorer. The main reason I use it is to stop the annoying scroll bug, but currently, as far as I can tell, CE has no effect whatsoever on my system. None of the settings change anything,...
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